What should CEEALAR be called?

post by CEEALAR (EA Hotel) · 2021-06-15T14:29:53.068Z · EA · GW · 59 comments

This is a question post.

We've heard that our name, CEEALAR (Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research), is not the [EA · GW]best [EA · GW].  What would a better name be? To expand, there are potentially two names: one for the hotel building, and one for the charity. The charity name can't contain the word "hotel", and perhaps shouldn't contain "EA". And does "Athena" - the current name of the hotel - pass the reversal test? (Previous discussion on our Facebook group).

 

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answer by Pablo · 2021-06-15T15:03:16.346Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

The Organization Formerly Known as Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research (TOFKACEEALAR)?

(Sorry.)

More seriously, perhaps you could look into the history of utopian communities for inspiration? Some had nice names, such as Owen's 'New Harmony'. Another option is to use the form 'x House', where x is the name of some suitable person or idea (as an example, someone previously suggested 'Bentham House').

answer by Jonas Vollmer · 2021-06-15T17:48:42.426Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I like Athena, or Athena Centre!

comment by Linch · 2021-06-15T17:57:30.476Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

In case you want lesser-known goddesses (eg because TOFKACEEALAR wants to branch out), there's also Aletheia, Hedone and Harmonia

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comment by vaidehi_agarwalla · 2021-06-16T02:00:12.262Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I like quite like Aletheia (truth in greek), but Athena is also good.

comment by David_Moss · 2021-06-15T20:21:02.654Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Hedone seems appropriate given that Blackpool is famous for its 'pleasure beach.'

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comment by Linch · 2021-06-15T21:18:49.317Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

One downside risk is that it might be even harder to fundraise for "Hedone Hotel on pleasure beach"

answer by Simmo · 2021-07-21T11:45:51.074Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

My sense is:

  • Having a separate name for the org and the hotel unnecessarily introduces more confusion/complexity.

  • Defaulting to Athena because it happens to be the name of the building already, seems highly improbable to coincidentally be the best option.

  • For clarity, something that concisely describes the mission or vision of the org and place feels best to me. Arepo's suggestion of 'Center for Altruists in Residence' hits the sweet spot on the specific enough to broad enough spectrum IMO. It also has an acronym which people will all pronounce the same and spell correctly (C.A.R.)

  • Using the names of philosophers etc runs the risk of people having (potentially negative) ideas about the person in question, which don't align with the purpose/vision/mission of the hotel. So personally I'd avoid that to ensure people who should be attracted, are attracted.

answer by Sjlver · 2021-06-18T08:55:52.444Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I like Xenea, a combination of Xenia (ancient Greek concept of hospitality) and EA.

Other ideas that I've thought about but like a bit less:

How about something like LEARN? -- not intended as an acronym; just "learn" with the letters "EA" in it highlighted in some way.

One could even play with the fact that "EA" also appears in "research" and consider a logo where these letters are highlighted the same, shared, ...

answer by jkmh · 2021-06-15T23:50:34.600Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I imagine most people reading your question don't want to list out a bunch of bad ideas. But I think that might be what's needed at this point, because the more we enumerate (and eliminate), the more clear it becomes whether or not CEEALAR is actually the best option. Or maybe seeing a bunch of bad ideas will spark a good one in someone's mind. Here:

Centre for Effective Learning, Centre for Learning Good, Blackpool Pastures, Hotel Hedon, Hotel for Effective Research, Maxgood Productions, Maxwell Hotel, EA Retreat House.

Yeah this is difficult.

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T11:26:27.963Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I would encourage people to list  'bad' ideas if that's what they're thinking of. It's good brainstorming strategy to not self-censor, and we ended up with the current alphabet soup because of a lack of inspiration last time!

comment by evelynciara · 2021-06-15T23:56:52.145Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I like "EA Retreat House"

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comment by So-Low Growth · 2021-06-16T08:55:58.559Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I strongly dislike this and think it gives off the wrong impression about the purpose of the Hotel.

answer by ishaan · 2021-06-16T02:03:56.140Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I thought "EA hotel" was pretty great as a straightforward description, good substitutes might have a word for "ea" and a word for "hotel". So like:

Bentham's Base
Helpers' House

Swap with Lodge, Hollow, Den if alliteration is too cute
 e.g. "Bentham's House", "Bentham's Lodge" both sound pretty serious.

Or just forget precedent and brand something new e.g. Runway (or Runway Athena)

Some "just kidding" alliterative options that I couldn't resist:
Crypto crib, Prioritization Place, Utilitarian's Union, Consequentialist Club, Greg's iGloo

answer by RyanCarey · 2021-06-16T00:42:50.421Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Building: Athena House? Athena Centre? Charity: I guess it should describe that you give people funding and autonomy to focus on their high-priority work, together. Independent Research Centre? Impact Hub?

answer by Sjlver · 2021-06-24T07:53:37.501Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Effective Hospitality

I've been thinking about this name on and off, and Effective Hospitality was the name that my thoughts kept returning to. I'd use it first as a name for what CEEALAR does: doing the most good possible by hosting people.

The name generalizes very well, in my opinion. Specifically, CEEALAR and/or the hotel could become "EH Blackpool". The idea might spread, and there could soon be "EH Tokyo", "EH Munich" and others (just as today there are effective altruism groups that call themselves "EA <location>").

The other primary advantage is that the name is quite self-explanatory.

comment by Neel Nanda · 2021-06-24T11:06:41.052Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

The other primary advantage is that the name is quite self-explanatory.

When I hear the name, I picture a hotel chain trying to provide excellent and efficient service. It doesn't feel like it gets to the heart of the EA Hotel for me.

answer by MaxRa · 2021-06-16T16:59:15.177Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I think the name CEEALAR grew on me by now, maybe because it is rewarding for me to be able to remember it correctly, and maybe because it has become kind of an inside joke that the name is a bit awkward. Random ideas anyway:

  • Altruists' harbor
  • Scout manor
  • Residence and Co-Working Centre (RANC Centre)
  • Residence for Altruistic Learning and Doing (RALD)
  • Altruists' Residence for Co-Working (ARFORC)
  • Altruistic Living And Doing Stuff (Altruistic LADS)
answer by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:20:28.372Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

For the sake of getting more feedback on existing suggestions, I'm going to post the eligible ones from the existing FB thread as responses to this 'answer', with clarifications about whether they apply to the hotel or the org (nb in cases where they could make sense for either, I'll post a separate entry for each). 

Please up/downvote according to how much you approve of each, keeping in mind the acronyms they'll form (whether as a plus or minus) - I suggest using single up/downvotes, since regular forum contributors get to adjust karma more with strong votes, but don't seem any more likely to have a better sense of aesthetics than passers by. But feel free to comment on any you feel strongly for/against!

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:34:35.645Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Large Utilon Collider (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:29:15.256Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Centre for Altruists In Residence (for the org)

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comment by Jordan Pieters · 2021-06-17T07:00:20.849Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

CARE?

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:27:21.759Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Centre for hosting high impact projects (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:22:23.892Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Altruism Incubator Project (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:28:39.415Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Altruists In Residence (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:36:07.028Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

ATHENA - Accommodation for Teaching, Humanitarianism, Education, and Neglected Altruism (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:25:28.597Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Future House (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:28:55.144Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Altruists In Residence (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T14:06:05.845Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact Hotel (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:33:06.064Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Athena Flourishing Fellowship (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:33:51.846Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Large Utilon Collider (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:35:48.527Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

ATHENA - Accommodation for Teaching, Humanitarianism, Education, and Neglected Altruism (for the building)

comment by michaelchen · 2021-06-16T15:22:49.031Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Effective Altruism House

comment by michaelchen · 2021-06-16T15:23:04.931Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Effective Altruism Lodge

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:22:00.328Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact Hospitality (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:22:41.800Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Altruism Incubator (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:23:35.743Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact Accommodation (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:23:55.897Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact Accommodation and Hospitality (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:24:18.817Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact House (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:24:34.789Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact House (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:25:07.175Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Guesthouse of Imagination (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:25:48.061Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Future House (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:26:24.690Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Blackpool Research Residence (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:27:00.153Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

High Impact Hosting (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:27:39.295Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Impact incubator project (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:27:55.893Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Apollo Hotel (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:29:44.064Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Centre for Altruists In Residence (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:30:55.043Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Athena Altruism Centre (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:32:33.713Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Athena Altruism Centre (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:35:08.603Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Analytic Altruism Incubator (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:36:30.820Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Social Analytics Institute (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:36:56.229Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Erstwhile Athena Hotel - EA Hotel (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:37:21.562Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Eapartment (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:37:36.812Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Eapartments (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:26:08.616Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Yay Hotel (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:28:23.633Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

The Raven (for the building)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:30:19.198Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Colbourn College (for the org)

comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:30:02.881Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Colbourn College (for the building)

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comment by Arepo · 2021-06-16T13:32:13.114Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Nb This one was not Greg's idea, and I suspect he'd be quite uncomfortable with it. But don't vote for it for that reason alone ;)

answer by Arepo · 2021-06-16T14:03:55.280Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

The Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Do Altruism Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too

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