Should and do EA orgs consider the comparative advantages of applicants in hiring decisions?
post by MichaelStJules
score: 15 (6 votes) ·
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16 Ozzie Gooen
E.g., would an EA org reject their top applicant because they thought the applicant would be more valuable elsewhere or in another position? Would they recommend the applicant to another org? Should they?
answer by Ozzie Gooen
· score: 16 (7 votes) · EA
I'd be quite surprised if rejection were frequent. I've been part of / close to a few organizations and haven't heard it discussed. A few reasons:
- I think most orgs are overconfident in themselves compared to other organizations (probably due to selection effects).
- I think most organizations would prefer to give the applicants the option, rather than removing it. They may tell the applicant in question that they believe it's possible that their job is less effective, but that it's still the applicant's decision to choose.
- "It feels wrong" in similar ways that lying or stealing feel wrong.
- I haven't heard about this being a factor, but I would imagine there could be legal issues for rejecting a candidate because you want to effectively control which group they work for.
I think (2) is a pretty good reason, for humility reasons if nothing else. Applicants may have a lot of good reasons for doing things that may at first seem sub-optimal. (3) is also pretty good. I could imagine instances where there's one highly-anxiety-producing but seemingly-effective option for a person. It seems kind of cruel if all their other job prospects refuse them to force them into that position. I could imagine some pretty nasty decision consequences that could result if that were a consideration.
On Recommendations to Other Orgs
I have witnessed cases of organizations suggesting good people to other organizations, especially if they both (1) think they were good, but (2) didn't fit with their own application process. This seems pretty reasonable to me.
Personally, when I chat to potential hires of things I'm working around, I try to be as honest as possible regarding to which organizations they would be best for, even sometimes connecting them with people representing other organizations.
In some sense these organisations are competing, but in a bigger sense, we're all trying to help make sure the world goes OK.
answer by KevinO
· score: 4 (3 votes) · EA
In his Notes on hiring a copyeditor for CEA [EA · GW], Aaron writes:
... I’ve also kept a record of the other applicants who most impressed me, so that I can let them know if I hear about promising opportunities. I’ve already referred a few candidates for different part-time roles at other EA orgs, and I anticipate more chances to come.
answer by ishaan
· score: 3 (3 votes) · EA
"Rejecting" would be a bit unusual, but of course you should honestly advise a well qualified candidate if you think their other career option is higher impact. I think it would be ideal if everyone gives others their honest advice about how to do the most good, roughly regardless of circumstance.
I've only seen a small slice of things, but my general sense is that people in the EA community do in fact live up to this ideal, regularly turning down and redirecting talent as well as funding and other resources towards the thing that they believe does the most good.
Also, although it might ultimately add up to the same thing, I think it brings more clarity to think along the lines of "counterfactual impact" (estimating how much unilateral impact an individual's alternative career choices have) rather than "comparative advantage" which is difficult to assess without detailed awareness of the multiple other actors you are comparing to.
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