On Sleep Procrastination: Going To Bed At A Reasonable Hour

post by iamef · 2021-04-16T23:31:25.126Z · EA · GW · 5 comments


  Who Would Find This Article Most Helpful
  My Personal Sleep Procrastination
    I Procrastinate on Sleep
  Why Sleep is Hard & Making the Mindset Shift
    Staying Up May (Sometimes) Be the Optimal Choice
    Variability in How We Feel the Next Day
    Stories of Successful People Who Sleep Very Little
    Wanting To Accomplish Something
  Exercises To Try
    Reading Why We Sleep[6]
    Estimating Short-Term Productivity Decline from Sleep Deprivation
    Enumerating Failure Modes
  PS: Say hi

Who Would Find This Article Most Helpful


Things I’ve Tried Shortened

Things I am Currently Trying

Mindset Shifts

Recommended Exercises

Helpful Resources

My Personal Sleep Procrastination

How I Procrastinate on Sleep

I procrastinate on going to sleep in a wide variety of seemingly unrelated ways:

Things I’ve Tried

Given that a lot of these interventions didn’t work, I hypothesize that shifting my mindset about sleep—even though I know it is quite important—is probably necessary to ensure that my system of tools actually works.

Why Sleep is Hard & Making the Mindset Shift

1. Staying Up May (Sometimes) Be the Optimal Choice

There are times when we do not regret staying up late. In fact, in the short-run, staying up late may well be the optimal decision. Here are some examples:

The general theme is that there is a hard deadline that one has to meet and that it would be much better in the short run to meet it than to get the extra dose of sleep.[1]

The Problem

We might extrapolate from the experiences where staying up later would be the optimal choice and assume that we should stay up late to be more productive and get more done. However, forgoing sleep could be thought of as a high-interest loan.[2] You’re likely to be less effective and feel awful the next day. In addition, it takes roughly 4 days to recover 1 hour of sleep debt in terms of performing at the optional level.

2. Variability in How We Feel the Next Day

Maybe sometimes you stayed up late and did something productive, and when you woke up the next day you didn’t feel that bad.

The Problem

With planning fallacy, you think that you’d end up ok tomorrow even if you sleep late tonight when that is not always the case.

3. Stories of Successful People Who Sleep Very Little

Elon Musk. Steve Jobs. Nikola Tesla. Thomas Edison. (Maybe) your friends at elite universities.

The Problem

Our careers span decades. Maybe being sleep deprived for a few years can work out, but this is unsustainable in the long run. Steve Jobs died young. Nikola Tesla wrote love letters to his pigeon. Elon Musk’s tweets suggest that he may not be thinking clearly. Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos gets a full 8 hours.

In addition, correlation does not imply causation, and we cannot extrapolate from the habits of successful people due to survivorship bias; there are many people who have slept little but were not successful. Numerous studies suggest that more sleep increases productivity and sleep deprivation is a major risk factor in terms of developing burnout.

4. Wanting To Accomplish Something

If you don’t do X tonight, you don’t think you’ll ever do X. Or perhaps you feel like you haven’t been productive for the rest of the day and have an urge to stay up late to catch up on some work.

The Problem

Is doing X more important than getting enough sleep? Does doing X even matter at all? If it was actually that important would I really never do it? Is it possible that you were unproductive during the day because you were sleep deprived?

Recall that numerous studies suggest that sleep increases productivity and decreases the risk of burnout.

5. Insomnia

If you probably won’t fall asleep anyway, might as well go to bed later.

The Problem

I’ve definitely experienced a lot of insomnia. I have plenty of recollections of being awake at 5am when I went to bed at a much more reasonable time. There are many great articles on how to fall asleep more easily. Personally, I found that wearing these blue / green blocking glasses[3] a couple of hours before sleeping (still experimenting with exact timing) and taking magnesium glycinate supplements[4] right before bed is a very low effort way to mostly get rid of my insomnia, though this may or may not work for you.[5]

Exercises To Try

1. Reading Why We Sleep[6]

Realizing that sleep is the foundation for optimal performance and good health (ability to eat healthy and desire to exercise are both impacted) has led me to write this post and want to prioritize sleep. An easy way to do this is listening to an audiobook while going on walks or doing chores like cooking.

I realize that there are many critiques on this book, but if you know that your sleep deprivation is actively harming you, which it was in my case, reading it is a net positive. Sometimes seeking out something helpful or useful in the short run may mean sacrificing a little bit of truth. This is sometimes ok.

2. Estimating Short-Term Productivity Decline from Sleep Deprivation

As someone who cares a lot about my productivity, having a rough number for how much less productive I will be if I were sleep deprived could be a useful exercise so I don’t fall into a planning fallacy of believing that the next day could be productive.

Note that these are extremely rough estimates. If you know of better estimates than I use here, please leave a comment and I can update these very rough calculations.

Let’s say

25% of the time when I am sleep deprived

This would amount to approximately 1 + 2.4 + 1.5 = 4.9 less productive hours in the day.

50% of the time when I am sleep deprived

This would amount to approximately 0.5 + 0.8 + 1 = 2.1 less productive hours in the day.

10% of the time when I am sleep deprived

This would amount to approximately 0.5 + 0.8 + 1 = 0.4 less productive hours in the day.

Therefore, the expected value estimate is that I will be losing 0.254.9 + 0.502.1 + 0.10*0.4 = 2.315 hours from a lack of sleep a day. My guess is that this is likely to be an underestimate because it doesn’t take into account poor decisions being made (choosing to prioritize task B over task A), the increased likelihood of falling sick if you are sleep deprived, and the increased likelihood of burning out for an indefinite amount of time, and the fact that it takes around 4 days to make up for the lack of sleep. These estimates also do not account for the likely decrease in lifespan that may occur due to a chronic lack of sleep.

That being said, productivity is not the only thing that suffers from the lack of sleep. It also impacts your subjective well-being, desire to exercise, ability to moderate your eating, social interactions, and more.

3. Enumerating Failure Modes

While I generally have an intuitive idea of why I fail to go to sleep early enough, explicitly listing out the failure modes leads to more concrete and effective targeting mechanisms.

Here’s an example

  1. I realized that I stayed up to finish a task (downloading software and trying it out)
  2. I list out this failure mode and strategize ways to combat it. I realized that I was excited to get the task done and afraid that I would not ever finish the task if I didn’t stay up to
  3. I started running a recurring script (for Mac) every night that will play "You might think that you'll never do the task if you don't stay up to do it. If the task really is that important, you will do it later; if the task isn't, then sleep is more important" to my speakers / headphones.

Surprisingly, it worked. This is probably because

Here is the link to a template for this spreadsheet.

I’ve been doing this consistently for a couple weeks already. I use Tab Snooze to automatically open up the tab every morning (recurring tab openings show up as a pro feature but I haven’t paid for it and it still works for me).


A copy and paste of the TLDR

Things I’ve Tried Shortened

Things I am Currently Trying

Mindset Shifts

Recommended Exercises

Helpful Resources


I appreciate Sydney Von Arx, Constantin, Chris Lakin, Raj Thimmiah, Talya, Kevin, Hawk, Ti Guo, Alan Taylor, Tony, and Aaron Gertler for reviewing a draft of this post and providing feedback. I take responsibility for all errors in this document.

I am also grateful for everyone who has nudged me towards prioritizing sleep and sharing strategies on how to do so. I definitely feel better with a more stable sleep schedule.

PS: Say hi

Some of my most interesting and life-changing conversations and insights come from people in the effective altruism community. Even if you don’t feel like you have anything to say, you probably have something interesting to share. All of us come from different backgrounds, so something that is obvious to you may have been overlooked by me.

What does this mean?

Cross posted on blog.emily.fan and Less Wrong [LW · GW]

  1. However, if you commit to going to bed at a reasonable time, and as a result don't end up finishing the presentation, you will suffer in the short term. The next time a similar situation occurs, you will have a very hard incentive to start work earlier, and thus avoid this completely. Timeless decision theory [? · GW] may also be relevant here. ↩︎

  2. The notion of sleep as a high interest loan was inspired by a friend who was inspired by the CFAR handbook. ↩︎

  3. I found these red glasses more intense than the orange ones. Note that they smell bad initially, so you might want to first air them out. Also, this is an Amazon affiliate link if you feel like supporting me with your purchase and are based in the US. Otherwise, this link should work, and no hard feelings. ↩︎

  4. Again, this is an Amazon affiliate link if you feel like supporting me with your purchase and are based in the US. Otherwise, this link should work, and no hard feelings. ↩︎

  5. Another common supplement is melatonin. Melatonin worked great in terms of falling asleep quickly, but I did not wake up feeling well rested. ↩︎

  6. Again, this is an Amazon affiliate link if you feel like supporting me with your purchase and are based in the US. Otherwise, this link should work, and no hard feelings. ↩︎


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comment by dominicroser · 2021-04-19T09:43:12.362Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

I love this post. It singles out a very specific problem and tackles it very thoughtfully.

On website blockers: I have also quitted them regularly but since I have started using ColdTurkey I have quitted much less. I think it's better than other blockers. 

For myself, family life has done the trick of making me go to bed at a reasonable hour. But as soon as my wife and kids are gone for a day or two, I (regrettably!) just stay up forever. One of the reasons why I do so (and which doesn't come up on your list) is that my mood often happens to be very good when I stay up late and I also enter flow states more easily when working late at night.

comment by gogreatergood · 2021-04-20T01:47:17.392Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Nice post; awesome illustrations.

I really love the https://heyfocus.com/ site blocker (bonus: it tracks how much time I spend working through the day, and I can easily see my work progress in chart form by day, week, month, year).

Got that tip from this article: https://markmanson.net/attention-diet, which also lists other good site blockers, and tips for focus. (skip down to "Step 1" onward, and especially "Step 4".)

comment by Misha_Yagudin · 2021-04-19T09:51:33.826Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Reading Why We Sleep.

Mandatory link: https://guzey.com/books/why-we-sleep/

(Author of the blog post is a good friend of mine, which makes me biased. I am very unlikely to engage in a discussion of the book's or post's pitfalls and merits here.)

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comment by gogreatergood · 2021-04-20T14:07:58.994Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

The author of this forum post already links to that :)

comment by michaelchen · 2021-04-20T18:23:53.647Z · EA(p) · GW(p)

Some things I do:

  • Set my computer to automatically shutdown at certain times, such as 12:10am, 12:30am, and 1am. I chose the time of 12:10am because assignments are generally due at 11:59pm, so there's no need to stay up later. Since I'm using Windows, I can do this with Task Scheduler: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-schedule-a-windows-10-shutdown-for-a-specific-date-and-time/
  • Set an alarm on my computer at 12am to remind me that my computer is going to shut down soon. This alarm plays only when the computer is awake (i.e., when I might be using the computer).
  • On my iPad and Android, I use website blockers (1Blocker Legacy for iPad, LeechBlock in Firefox for Android) to block any sites except a handful of sites on a whitelist. I don't have any other apps like YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, etc. where I could get sucked down an infinite rabbit hole. So then all I have left to do is reading some boring PDFs of textbooks.