What movements does EA have the strongest synergies with?

post by G Gordon Worley III (gworley3) · 2018-12-20T23:36:55.641Z · score: 8 (2 votes) · EA · GW · 10 comments

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    2 aarongertler
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The EA movement is strong on its own, but it also resonates with people in other movements allowing opportunities for overlap, synergy, and shared action. What other movements fit best with EA, even if they are ones that EA doesn't current work much with yet? Why?

Note: Please give one answer per movement, multiple answers per person okay. If someone has already given an answer with a movement you have something to say something about, please say it in a comment on their answer to keep things organized!


answer by Aaron Gertler (aarongertler) · 2019-01-12T00:04:53.175Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Thanks for specifying how you want answers delivered! This isn't about any one movement (it's a meta-answer), but I'll post it here because I think it points to action that you or someone else could take to resolve the question.

Rather than trying to think of all the movements/groups I can and filtering by "seems synergistic", I'll try to break this question down.

Any group with which we share some common trait might have synergy; the number of common traits should correlate with the level of synergy.

Some traits of EA:

  • Cares about charity
  • Cares about career choice
  • Cares about using evidence
  • Cares about maximizing output/ being efficient
  • Cares about certain "neglected" groups: The global poor, farm/wild animals, people in the future
  • Cosmopolitan, with a focus on the entire world/"grand strategy"
  • Political lean toward economic conservatism and social liberalism

Charities themselves may not be huge fans of us if they see us as critical/rivals, but people trying to donate are synergistic with us. Which groups of people spend a lot of time trying to donate? People with a lot of money, people planning their legacies, people who work as charitable consultants, etc.

You can do the same thing for each list item, and try to notice which groups fall into multiple categories or have "anti-categories" they expressly don't fit:

  • Many Buddhists care about the global poor, cosmopolitanism, and charity.
  • Libertarians like efficiency, economic conservatism, and social liberalism.
  • College students like social liberalism, career choice, and cosmopolitanism (but aren't big on economic conservatism). And so on.

If you do wind up building a list in this way, you should share it on the Forum more generally! I've wanted a resource like this for a while but haven't had time to build it carefully.

answer by Jeremy (captainjc) · 2018-12-22T13:49:14.912Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Moved this to comments. Sorry I was on my phone and didn't realize I was answering instead of commenting. I tried the "retract comment" feature, but it didn't seem to do anything.


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comment by kbog · 2018-12-22T03:29:34.942Z · score: 7 (6 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Soccer, because there has been a recent trend of professional soccer players giving up portions of their salary to charity. Usually they give it to things like soccer opportunities in the developing world.

comment by Aaron Gertler (aarongertler) · 2019-01-11T23:33:09.031Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Thanks for responding, kbog!

For future reference, we recommend posting answers in the "New Answer" section, rather than as comments. The comment section is meant for asking clarifying questions, or for thoughts that aren't actually answers. (This is a new feature, so we know it takes some getting used to!)

comment by anonymous_ea · 2018-12-22T22:15:14.661Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Google turns up Juan Mata's Common Goal initiative: 'I am pledging 1% of my salary to Common Goal, a collective fund — run by the award-winning NGO streetfootballworld — that supports football charities around the globe.'

Source: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/juan-mata-manchester-united-common-goal

comment by Jeremy (captainjc) · 2018-12-22T13:51:55.998Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Sports in general has a great amount of potential. I only really follow baseball, but I hear a lot about how this player supports this charity and work in the community and I believe teams actively encourage their players to do so. The challenge of course being that athletes as a group are not known as the most rational of people.

comment by Jemma · 2019-01-02T02:33:38.936Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)
  • General vegan movement, including to a greater or lesser extent people becoming vegan for health, environmental, and/or animal suffering reasons
  • Left-wing people who are disillusioned with the prospects of/normally promoted avenues for systemic change or the ability to help people in other countries
  • People who are accustomed to donating money, e.g. for religious reasons: potentially a large demographic but may be hard to sway donations, though I have had some success introducing GiveWell to people who have left religion and are looking for secular charities
comment by Aaron Gertler (aarongertler) · 2019-01-11T23:32:47.877Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Thanks for responding, Jemma!

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comment by Jeremy (captainjc) · 2018-12-22T13:40:02.022Z · score: 4 (3 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Anecdotally, I feel like I've read a fair amount about poker players and effective altruism - I remember one donation matching offer. Others may know more about this than I do. I imagine it could have appeal because they are familiar with concepts like expective benefits, etc.

comment by anonymous_ea · 2018-12-22T22:20:55.095Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Raising for Effective Giving was started by poker pros part of the EA community to raise funds from other poker pros to EA charities. It's pretty quite successful. REG claims to have influenced over $6.5m, including $5.75m to global health, animal welfare, and x-risk charities, with a fundraising multiplier > 1:15.

comment by Jeremy (captainjc) · 2018-12-22T15:55:44.559Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Most of the things that come to mind are not strictly movements (I guess I wouldn't really describe poker players that way either), so I'm not sure if this is helpful, but there are the obvious connections between EA and mathematics, philosophy, computer science, to a lesser degree the rest of academia and science, as well as finance.