For those working on longtermist projects, how do you stay motivated in the short-term?

post by warrenjordan · 2020-08-08T19:21:38.172Z · score: 13 (6 votes) · EA · GW · No comments

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I think about those working at MIRI or x-risk, in which they may see little to no benefit in their lifetime, and potentially only their grandchildren will reap the benefits.

I'm pursuing a somewhat longtermist project, but I'm having trouble staying motivated through obstacles and navigating through the "grind" right now. I was wondering what others have done to get through this or how they've stayed motivated when success can seem so far away? Especially if what they're doing is really only going to help in the far future.

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answer by lukefreeman · 2020-08-10T04:01:42.426Z · score: 7 (3 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Personally, I find this an argument for being more emotionally motivated by near term outcomes (even while being more philosophically motivated by long term outcomes).

Three ways I've seen this done well (often in tandem):

1. Diversity of attention: Working on a longtermist project while paying attention to to how other parts of their lives (e.g. allocating some donations for addressing more immediate problems, changing diet for moral circle expansion, building relationships, hobbies, creative works) bring them joy and motivation. It could be very demotivating if one is purely "all-in" (devoting huge amounts of time/thought/identity) on something that feels incredibly far away.

2. Focus on near-term outcomes of longtermist projects. For example, you're focused on long term political stability and working on changing the voting system of a local government area and the immediate benefit that provides people.

3. Focus on immediate progress towards longtermist projects. Every project has goals that you reach such as getting funding, publishing a paper, hiring a new colleague, running an event. Take the time to celebrate these wins.

answer by MarisaJurczyk · 2020-08-14T04:42:55.871Z · score: 3 (2 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

I'm afraid I don't have any original recommendations, but have you read the EA Handbook Motivation Series [? · GW]? Nate Soares' 'On Caring' [? · GW] might be particularly relevant.

I was also talking with some other EAs about this recently and one of them mentioned Metta meditation, which is essentially a meditation that focuses on creating an expanding circle of goodwill, which could hypothetically include the long-term future. If meditation is your thing, it might be worth a shot.

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