Some mental health resources tailored for EAspost by Miranda_Zhang (email@example.com) · 2021-08-20T16:04:45.319Z · EA · GW · 5 comments
TL;DR: Here are some mental health resources tailored for EAs that have helped me. Resource List The desire for impact Don't be Bycatch by AllAmerican Breakfast* It’s Supposed To Feel Like This: 8 emotional challenges of altruism by H M* Illegible impact is still impact by G Gordon Worley III* Kelsey Piper on 'shut up and multiply'* Keeping Absolutes in Mind by Michelle Hutchinson* Less often discussed EA emotional patterns by Ada-Maaria Hyvärinen Reconciling EA and self care Aiming for the minimum of self-care is dangerous by Tessa Alexanian Beyond EA: On being a full human being You have more than one goal, and that's fine by Julia Wise Room for Other Things: How to adjust if EA seems overwhelming by Lucas Gloor* Perfectionism Holly Elmore on Scrupulosity (2019) The Parable of the Talents by Scott Alexander (2015)* Motivation Helen Toner on Sustainable Motivation (2020) Replacing Guilt by Nate Soares (2015-2016) Personal Accounts 'Having a successful career with depression, anxiety and imposter syndrome' with Howie (2021) Desperation hamster wheels by Nicole Ross (2020)* Generalized Resources from EAs Personal Context None 5 comments
TL;DR: Here are some mental health resources tailored for EAs that have helped me.
I think that reading about the intersection of specific mental health issues (e.g. anxiety) and effective altruism can be more efficient than reading about specific mental health issues and interpreting their relationship to EA principles.
Basically, it seems easier on your brain to use advice that is more specific to your situation, such as being part of the EA community.
However, my limited experience with the EA mental health community has not turned up a lot of resources specific to EAs. This is unsurprising because none of the mental health issues that EAs face are exclusive to the EA community—so I'm not sure how much more useful tailoring mental health resources to EAs would be.
Still, I have found that I am more likely to resonate with and apply insights that do specifically consider mental health issues from an EA lens, and so I want to compile those rare resources here for posterity.
These are divided into more specific aspects of mental health. For each resource, I have provided a high-level summary, one favorite quote, and a personal reflection of how the resource has benefited me.
Note: Following Tessa's comments, I'm transitioning this post into a general collection of EA mental health resources. I will mark resources I have yet to review with an asterisk and only provide a one-line summary.
The desire for impact
On just doing helpful things
8 ways that an altruistic life can be hard.
Just because it doesn't feel like your impact is tangible, doesn't mean that you aren't impactful.
Kelsey Piper on 'shut up and multiply'*
On how everyone matters.
On keeping in touch with what we're doing.
Outlines cases in which it might actually be compelling for EAs to experience some difficult feelings like the need for self-sacrifice or urgency, such that [one's understanding/application of] EA principles are reinforcing these unhelpful emotional patterns.
Ironically, having your impact define your self-worth can actually reduce your impact in multiple ways
This articulates multiple points I learned through months of self-reflection, so I'm glad that someone wrote them up in a public and eloquent post!
Reconciling EA and self care
The best application of consequentialism to self-care that I've seen on the Forum: minimizing self-care in an attempt to optimize impact often does not work out.
Beyond EA: On being a full human being
When you make a decision, be clear with yourself about which goals you’re pursuing. You don’t have to argue that your choice is the best way of improving the world if that isn’t actually the goal.
A compilation of resources for helping EAs compartmentalize more.
Holly Elmore on Scrupulosity (2019)
A 5-minute talk that combines Obsessive Compulsive (Personality) Disorder with perfectionism, which really reflects my experience of perfectionism re: EA.
Essentially, for me EA has helped a lot by taking morality seriously as a real world project. With evidence-based charity comes a lot of sobriety. But it’s also hurt because my way of thinking is magnified in this community and I’m constantly made aware of all the things I could, in theory, be doing to help the world.
I once told a therapist that "EA didn't cause my unhealthy perfectionism but it sometimes interacts unhelpfully with it"—this talk not only describes that but also provides actionable insights.
Covers scrupulosity, intelligence, and self-esteem through a personal account.
Helen Toner on Sustainable Motivation [EA · GW] (2020)
A 24-minute talk on avoiding burnout by creating a sustainable lifestyle. Not really EA-specific but as a member of the EA community, Helen provides relatable examples and supports the scientific method of [running experiments on] self-improvement.
... we should be thinking hard and talking with each other about how to build sustainable motivation in our lives. Do it for your work, because your work matters and you'll be more effective at your job. Do it for your community, because we're constantly setting norms and expectations for one another. And do it for yourself, because you're a human and you matter.
I think EAs may be more prone to burnout because it can be difficult to compartmentalize when you are so keenly aware of a) the world's problems and b) the ability you have to address them (for those of us who are more privileged), so even though burnout is very commonly talked about, I felt like I learned from Helen's take. As someone who plays the Sims, I also really like her Sims metaphor!
Replacing Guilt by Nate Soares (2015-2016)
An EA mental health classic: on his blog, Soares wrote a series of posts on a range of mental health topics, ranging from feeling guilty to maximizing for effort vs a goal. If you aren't new to EA, I highly recommend starting from the 'Drop your obligations' section.
It's much easier, I think, to stop asking "is this action the right action to take?" and instead ask "what's the best action I can identify at the moment?" ... You never have enough information to make a fully informed choice. You never have enough time to consider all the possibilities, or weigh all the evidence. You are always biased; your brain is compromised. The problem before you is too hard, and no matter what you do, a billion more people are going to die.—'The Best You Can' [? · GW]
Some of this series was helpful for me and some of it, not so much—but the stuff that was helpful is stuff I'm confident I'll keep returning to. This series is popular for a reason!
Part one of a two-part 80,000 Hours interview with Howie, who worked at Open Philanthropy. A really honest and, as of right now, rare account of an EA struggling with mental health despite being an incredibly impactful person.
I think a problem that a lot EAs have is just inability to set standards for themselves that they can possibly meet. I think that there’s just this sort of maximizing, optimizing type of attitude that can just make it really tempting to shoot for the stars and then not actually have a plan that could possibly lead you to be successful.
I loved this episode. I think much of its impact simply came from validating my experiences and realizing that super cool EAs also struggle with similar thought patterns and issues. This seems more reflective of my experience around [the lack of] mental health discourse within EA.
Desperation hamster wheels by Nicole Ross [LW · GW] (2020)*
A personal reflection by Nicole on her experience with mental health issues and potential explanations for the improvements she's seen. Includes a list of recommendations to try.
Generalized Resources from EAs
Although not true to the spirit of this post, I'll briefly list MH resources provided by EAs/EA-aligned therapists in case you are searching for an EA-aligned MH professional.
The Lorien Psychiatry Database* A WIP database that provides an overview of several mental health conditions (including alcoholism, borderline personality disorder and depression), medications, and supplements. Takes a classic psychiatry approach.
Mental Health Resources by Ewelina Tur* A useful document listing recommendations for everything from workbooks to apps.
TL;DR: Aspiring to maximize EA alignment exacerbated underlying tendencies towards burnout etc., and in my journey to recovery, I feel cautiously optimistic that mental health resources tailored for EAs will be especially useful.
I only 'discovered' EA as a community in 2020 and it's been an incredible whirlwind since. I'd read 80,000 Hours back in 2018 (you know - when it still had the career quiz) and had the vague sense that maybe AI policy could be significant, and so I decided to major in Public Policy instead of Psychology, and ...
... That was about it until 2020, when I was asked by the then-organizers of UChicago EA to help lead the Arete Fellowship. They then recommended I apply for career mentoring through EA Oxford, which is what kickstarted my engagement with the wider EA community. Huw Thomas singlehandedly explained longtermism to me and I finally 'got it.' Maybe it's because I didn't focus enough while I was browsing 80k or maybe it's because conversation activates my brain in a special way, but I finally heard the music. What do you mean, there's thousands of people who think like this and whom I could talk to?! I thought this was all just ... Philosophy and Peter Singer and being-scared-about-AI. And EA is certainly about those things, but it's also much bigger and less well-defined and more nascent.
All of a sudden, I was thinking about how I could be EA-everything. I took career planning seriously for the first time. I became a University organizer. I decided my thesis had to be an Effective Thesis. I joined EA Slack and Facebook groups. I turned on Twitter notifications for active EAs in my favorite cause areas and subscribed to All The Newsletters. While picking classes to take, I obsessed over optimizing for EA-alignment while still being able to graduate. I scheduled a plethora of networking calls to figure out how I could make my first job out of college as EA as possible.
I also compounded my burnout by making it feel really high-stakes. Ever since entering a highly-selective high school in 2016, I've struggled with episodes of anxiety and depression, and this sudden influx of EA maximization has been A Lot. I started taking my mental health more seriously this year, including starting long-term therapy. It's helped a bit but not as much as I thought, which has been disheartening. However, I feel more optimistic about my self-improvement prospects when I read about mental health issues specifically from an EA perspective. I wondered if that might be the case for other EAs—but I figured that, if it wasn't, it would still be helpful for me to keep track of mental health resources that specifically deal look at the influence + implications of EA principles. Thus this list was born!
Speaking from my VERY limited experience, ranging from counselling with EA therapists to the fantastic WANBAM Slack and the similarly-fantastic EA Mental Health Navigator to Forum posts such as this one [EA · GW]. ↩︎
Indeed, I think the highly-engaged EA community tends to be biased towards thinking it's more unique than it is, and could benefit from drawing more from resources that do not take an EA lens. ↩︎
A big part of why I'm doing this is because I haven't come across a centralized directory for these types of resources but please let me know if one already exists! ↩︎
I read this series recently and I felt like there was so much ground covered, almost to the point where I don't feel comfortable categorizing this in any specific section. Even just listing it as is, without dividing the series into subdivisions, seems counter to the spirit of my compilation and so I hope to later edit this post to break down the series further. ↩︎
An exaggeration but not by much. I kept engaging with + spreading EA ideas and taking an EA perspective to isues, but I didn't build it into my life as much as I do now. ↩︎
Perhaps the best metaphor about the 'avant-garde' EA community I've come across, so I really wanted to reference it here! ↩︎
I suspect this is because I'm still struggling to dedicate time + effort to my mental health, and so I am unlikely to take on any cognitive load beyond directly applying insights I come across. This means that I'm not maximizing their utility because I'm not fully understanding how they can be applied to, say, moral perfectionism driven by EA. ↩︎
Now that I think about it, most if not all of these come directly from EAs. I don't think that has to be the case, though, so I'm not going to rename this as 'For EAs, from EAs: Mental Health Resources' even though I'm tempted. ↩︎
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