DonyChristie's Shortform

post by DonyChristie · 2020-08-22T17:49:36.928Z · score: 4 (1 votes) · EA · GW · 8 comments


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comment by DonyChristie · 2020-08-22T17:49:46.396Z · score: 4 (11 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Someday, someone is going to eviscerate me on this forum, and I'm not sure how to feel about that. The prospect feels bad. I tentatively think I should just continue diving into not giving a fuck and inspire others similarly since one of my comparative advantages is that my social capital is not primarily tied in with fragile appearance-keeping for employment purposes. But it does mean I should not rely on my social capital with Ra-infested EA orgs.

I'm registering now that if you snipe me on here, I'm not gonna defensively respond. I'm not going to provide 20 citations on why I think I'm right. In fact, I'm going to double down on whatever it is I'm doing, because I anticipate in advance that the expected disvalue of discouraging myself due to really poor feedback on here is greater than the expected disvalue of unilaterally continuing something the people with Oxford PhDs think is bad.

comment by EdoArad (edoarad) · 2020-08-23T06:03:04.701Z · score: 5 (3 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

This sounds very worrying, can you expand a bit more?  

comment by DonyChristie · 2020-08-25T20:43:25.086Z · score: 9 (4 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

I don't have much slack to respond given I don't enjoy internet arguments, but if you think about the associated reference class of situations, you might note that a common problem is a lack of self-awareness of there being a problem. This is not the case with this dialogue, which should allay your worry somewhat.

The main point here, which this is vagueposting about, is that people on here will dismiss things rather quickly especially if it's a dismissal by someone with a lot of status, in a pile-on way without much overt reflection by the people who upvote such comments. I concluded from seeing this several times that at some point this will happen with a project of mine, and that I should be ok with this world, because this is not a location in which to get good project feedback as far as I can tell. The real risk here I am facing is that I would be dissuaded from the highest-impact projects by people who only believe in things vetted by a lot of academic-style reasoning and evidence that makes legible sense, at the cost of not being able to exploit secrets in the Thielian sense.

comment by Khorton · 2020-08-22T17:52:03.801Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

It's interesting that the Oxford PhDs are the ones you worry about! Me, I worry about the Bay Area Rat Pack.

comment by DonyChristie · 2020-08-25T20:41:30.813Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

This is also valid! :)

comment by Khorton · 2020-08-26T07:51:12.909Z · score: 4 (2 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Omg I can't believe that someone downvoted you for admitting your insecurities on your own shortform!! That's absolutely savage, I'm so sorry.

comment by Inda · 2020-08-24T21:12:50.879Z · score: -8 (6 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

This post's purpose is not clear. What are you trying to do with it? If you don't give a fuck about keeping appearances, why have you written this? Is it a protest against current norms? Is it an invitation to others to also disregard norms?

This post is also just rude. Keep your ad hominems to yourself.

comment by Aaron Gertler (aarongertler) · 2020-08-25T09:10:37.065Z · score: 7 (5 votes) · EA(p) · GW(p)

Note from a moderator: The first paragraph of this response was within the Forum's norms, but the second paragraph was dicey. If you respond to posts you see as rude by echoing their language and tone, the discourse has nowhere to go but down. It's better to try improving the tenor of the conversation.

Additionally, the OP could be seen as rude, but it doesn't seem to be targeting anyone in particular. However, to me, this reply seems to be rude toward a particular person (Dony).