Comment by DavidNash on The career and the community · 2019-03-22T22:42:23.124Z · score: 5 (4 votes) · EA · GW

Similar to Milan I agree with the main point of your comment and also think that the EA community conforms less than the majority of communities.

Maybe ironically, I also think that there is a relative lack of experience with communities in general among a lot of people interested in EA, which makes it harder for people to know what is expected, such as using group slang, strong identities, close connections and group 'rituals' which are very common in most communities.

Comment by DavidNash on I'll Fund You to Give Away 'Doing Good Better' - Surprisingly Effective? · 2019-03-22T10:43:20.524Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · EA · GW

It's good to see people trying small low cost experiments like this although I suspect there are diminishing returns to how many people will be interested if you try a similar post again but that's also why it's good that you've given a framework for others to copy.

At EA London I haven't given as many books out in the last 12 months as the previous 12 as I've usually only given them to people after a 1-1 meeting or significant interest from someone at an event where it seems more likely that they'll actually read it and want to take away some advice rather than offering to give it to people who are more interested in the idea of a "free book".

Comment by DavidNash on Why doesn't the EA forum have curated posts or sequences? · 2019-03-21T15:10:13.601Z · score: 8 (4 votes) · EA · GW

The EA forum is a forum with just two categories so it functions more like a news board, which means most conversation ends up happening in bespoke Facebook groups for various causes, careers and interest groups. Facebook has a similar problem of losing good posts and conversations, which might have been stickied in a traditional forum with multiple categories and sub-categories.

There may be advantages to having these discussions happen on Facebook as people might be more likely to check, although it does make it hard to find out where the conversations are happening.

Comment by DavidNash on The career and the community · 2019-03-21T15:00:34.980Z · score: 12 (11 votes) · EA · GW

I massively agree with most of this and when talking to people about careers I try to help them find a field that fascinates them and has the potential to be leveraged in the future. At the risk of over simplifying, EA organisations seem to be "experience-constrained" which can't be solved by just getting smart graduates to work in EA jobs.

I think I disagree slightly that there needs to be a "task Y", it may be the case that some people will have an interest in EA but wont be able to contribute. Just as there people who have an interest in evidence based medicine but don't get an opportunity to contribute to medical journals or become doctors. The aim of EA isn't to make use of all resources available, even if it may seem like a lost opportunity not to.

Also I think the EA community is a subset of the EA movement, and lots of people have positive impact whilst rarely or never engaging online/in person and it might be a mistake to focus on just the community part. This post though might lead to people being happier to focus on their own field and potentially reengaging when it makes sense to.

EA London Community Building Lessons Learnt - 2018

2019-03-20T11:38:00.155Z · score: 43 (21 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on EA London Community Building Lessons Learnt - 2018 · 2019-03-20T11:25:29.399Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Online content is generally the amount of people that open or click on an email (but baring in mind that long term, getting more clicks relies on your community trusting you to have content they want to click on rather than clickbait).

Occasionally people also send replies saying they value newsletters and when I ask people in person what they value, that sometimes gets mentioned.

Comment by DavidNash on EA London Community Building Lessons Learnt - 2018 · 2019-03-20T11:22:54.108Z · score: 4 (3 votes) · EA · GW

For Meetup, it seemed to have negative value in the way it is used by default.

I think people mainly join meetup because they are looking for new hobbies and/or friends rather than deciding they want to do good or have impact in their careers. This can be useful for increasing attendance but I think it's using the wrong digital tool for the goals most groups have.

Potentially with a closed meetup group with questions that have to be answered before joining it could work well, similar to Facebook. Although Meetup still has the issue of their users being a subset of Facebook that don't necessarily have a good overlap with the kind of people that EA can help the most.

Comment by DavidNash on Making discussions in EA groups inclusive · 2019-03-05T00:30:30.325Z · score: 4 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I think your examples highlight a difference between barriers to entry rather than the amount of alienating conversations.

With twitter almost anyone can take part anonymously whereas to get into law school you probably have to take part in interviews/get references where you don't alienate people.

Latest Research and Updates for February 2019

2019-02-28T15:07:31.360Z · score: 44 (26 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Hit Based Giving for Global Development · 2019-02-12T17:38:47.893Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

I don't think there is a systematic process for feedback for the EA funds at the moment. It's mainly ad hoc with the fund managers gathering feedback themselves, people emailing them or forum posts like this one.

There may also be a way of telling by looking at how much people continue to give to each fund, although I don't know how closely donors are monitoring the eventual impact.

Comment by DavidNash on Hit Based Giving for Global Development · 2019-02-08T10:39:50.697Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

I agree that individuals will find it hard when donating individually but the call to action is about using the EA fund or creating a separate one with these aims in mind.

Similar to how people might choose to invest in a low/medium/high risk fund for their own savings.

Comment by DavidNash on Hit Based Giving for Global Development · 2019-02-07T15:20:01.308Z · score: 5 (3 votes) · EA · GW

This is quite a tangential point to the post and might come across as trying to divert the conversation.

There's a possibility that if this happens a lot, it lowers the chance that other people pay attention to the points when they are relevant.

Comment by DavidNash on Hit Based Giving for Global Development · 2019-02-07T11:38:17.718Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

I don't know as much about them.

I think that it would make sense to have experts that know this landscape pretty well to work out where the potential gaps are.

Hit Based Giving for Global Development

2019-02-06T18:19:19.865Z · score: 18 (11 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Latest Research and Updates for January 2019 · 2019-01-31T17:30:40.249Z · score: 11 (7 votes) · EA · GW

The author has a tweet about what inspired the piece

The Long Time project

Seth Baum at GCR

Nick Beckstead

Toby Ord and FHI

Latest Research and Updates for January 2019

2019-01-31T13:06:46.998Z · score: 30 (15 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Latest Research and Updates for December · 2019-01-04T20:29:10.245Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Thanks, I've updated the post.

Latest Research and Updates for December

2019-01-04T12:38:10.263Z · score: 36 (19 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Should donor lottery winners write reports? · 2018-12-22T19:43:05.933Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

It may be a good thing that people that are less inclined to write up a report will be less likely to join a donor lottery.

Comment by DavidNash on Survey of 2018 EA Survey · 2018-12-21T20:10:33.609Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

"Correct answer" is maybe not the best wording, it means the answer that Rethink Charity used to describe their results, and is also consistent with how they reported the results in previous years. I should have pointed this out at the beginning of the survey.

In terms of the political questions, that is also shifted by a large response from people supporting libertarian or other political views.

Survey of 2018 EA Survey

2018-12-20T17:29:02.631Z · score: 23 (8 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Long-Term Influence and Movement Growth: Two Historical Case Studies · 2018-12-13T20:02:25.729Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · EA · GW

I'd be interested in seeing how evidence based medicine became the default in most places (amongst the general public as well as within medicine), and if there were previous attempts to popularise it that failed.

Comment by DavidNash on EA Survey 2018 Series: Donation Data · 2018-12-10T09:26:42.432Z · score: 5 (4 votes) · EA · GW

I feel like I might be missing something obvious, but under the "other influences on giving" section, are there really 514 researchers that filled out the survey?

Notes on “The Art of Gathering”

2018-12-06T15:48:41.558Z · score: 32 (18 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on So you want to do operations [Part one] - which skills do you need? · 2018-12-01T13:02:12.814Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I think total responsibility is really important, although in larger organisations it can be useful to make sure that you aren't duplicating efforts or annoying other people by assuming that you are the only one that can fix things and end up burning bridges with the people you need to work with.

Latest Research and Updates for November

2018-11-30T15:10:22.010Z · score: 17 (10 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Towards Better EA Career Advice · 2018-11-27T15:59:49.406Z · score: 5 (6 votes) · EA · GW

I think even the slightly out of date advice is still pretty good for getting people to think about the right ways to approach finding an impactful job.

There isn't an alternative that I point people towards even if the latest content and coaching is more targeted than the general advice.

For the majority of their audience I think this is okay, but for people who might set up similar career coaching and content it might crowd them out, although this has already been mentioned in other comments.

Comment by DavidNash on Effective Altruism Making Waves · 2018-11-19T20:01:52.201Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA · GW

I went back and looked at an earlier Feedly I had setup from 18th November 2015 until 3rd March 2016 and there were 2123 mentions of "effective altruism" which is over 106 days compared to 130 days in the current example.

I have a suspicion that a few tweets get cut off from my current Feedly which might be one reason it seems to be lower, it could also be that there was a bigger media push in 2015/2016.

Comment by DavidNash on Effective Altruism Making Waves · 2018-11-19T19:49:29.907Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA · GW

It should be possible to scrape from twitter for earlier dates.

From my feedly since July 13th 2018 there have been at least 1650 tweets with the phrase"effective altruism" and 128 with the phrase "effective altruist".

As a side note it seems that there are a higher proportion of negative tweets with "effective altruist" than "effective altruism".

Comment by DavidNash on Value drift & commitment accounts · 2018-11-19T17:48:54.425Z · score: 4 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I didn't vote either way but the picture, emojis and multiple disclaimers throughout are probably not needed.

Also some of the ideas aren't explored that much and would be better either fleshed out or not included.

Here is a post on a similar topic which could be a good style to copy.

Comment by DavidNash on the role of ART in EA? · 2018-11-13T22:39:54.588Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Another post by the founder of createquity - https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HQBbpMzw4Yjvadvws/all-causes-are-ea-causes

Comment by DavidNash on Book Summary: "Messages: The Communication Skills Book" Part I & II · 2018-11-12T15:37:33.501Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

I guess I have never really chosen the 5 people I spend the most time with, but I think it's been beneficial for me that they generally have different styles of communicating so I'm used to constantly switching how I listen/talk.

Comment by DavidNash on Book Summary: "Messages: The Communication Skills Book" Part I & II · 2018-11-09T12:52:23.105Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I think this is really useful but the final clarification is really important and maybe should be included in the section on key points - if you do all of these things repeatedly, you'll be really annoying and soon you'll be hardly listening because of all the questions and paraphrasing. Sometimes I find it better to wait for people to finish speaking (even if it's 3-5 minutes) and just ask the most important clarification.

Also once you've been improving your listening abilities for a while it seems to be even more impactful to scale back paraphrasing and acknowledgements as your conversation style will naturally show an understanding.

I think I disagree with trying to surround yourself with people who 'suck it up' as it may make it harder to talk to everyone else if you slip into conversational norms with people who never get offended or annoyed.

Latest Research and Updates for October

2018-11-03T10:56:06.930Z · score: 12 (12 votes)
Comment by DavidNash on Are men more likely to attend EA London events? Attendance data, 2016-2018. · 2018-10-11T15:04:09.202Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I looked into this and of the women that came to just 1 event, there was an average of 49% female attendance. Of women who came to 2 or more events, the first event they came to had, an average of 45% female attendance.

Also of the women who came to 5 or more events, half of them came to an event with less than 40% female attendance and half of them came to an event with more than 40%.

Comment by DavidNash on Survey of EA org leaders about what skills and experience they most need, their staff/donations trade-offs, problem prioritisation, and more. · 2018-10-10T15:25:06.385Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · EA · GW

Looking at this part -

"We did include more people from organisations focused on long-termism. It’s not clear what the right method is here, as organisations that are bigger and/or have more influence over the community ought to have more representation, but we think there’s room for disagreement with this decision."

I think one potential reason there are more people interested in EA working at LTF organisations is that EA and LTF are both relatively new ideas. Not many people are considering careers in these areas, so it is much easier for a community to found and staff the majority of organisations.

If global development had been ignored until 5 years ago, it's very likely most of the organisations in this area would be founded by people interested in EA, and they might be over represented in surveys like this.

There may be talent gaps in other cause areas (beyond development and animals) that are missed out as they don't have leaders with EA backgrounds but that doesn't mean that those gaps should be under weighted.

It may be worth having a separate survey trying to get opinions considering talent gaps in priority areas whether they are led by people involved in EA or not.

Comment by DavidNash on EA Survey 2018 Series: Community Demographics & Characteristics · 2018-10-01T10:39:50.003Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

Edit - Incorrect guess.

My guess is it was meant to say 1.3%, and that not prefer wasn't included.

Looking at this year the figure is 1.9%, and I'm assuming the second figure for prefer not to answer is meant to be 2.1% not 21 people.

Comment by DavidNash on Additional plans for the new EA Forum · 2018-09-09T19:46:13.521Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

Would it be possible for posts/comments to have to be approved before getting posted, or at least for users that haven't gained a certain amount of karma.

Comment by DavidNash on Are men more likely to attend EA London events? Attendance data, 2016-2018. · 2018-08-10T23:33:17.519Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · EA · GW

It may be a bit short sighted to try and grow in a way that leads to 0.1% of people being interested in effective altruism rather than 5%.

It seems to be a mistake that both the atheist and skeptic communities have made in the past.

Comment by DavidNash on Are men more likely to attend EA London events? Attendance data, 2016-2018. · 2018-08-10T20:27:44.499Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · EA · GW

There is also some data from Facebook groups that might add context.

On the EA London group with 1797 members the split is 43.8% women and 54.7% men.

For the London animal group with 495 members the split is 50.6% women and 46.9% men.

Comment by DavidNash on Are men more likely to attend EA London events? Attendance data, 2016-2018. · 2018-08-09T19:03:06.301Z · score: 11 (11 votes) · EA · GW

Looking at other social events not at pubs the ratio has been similar, ranging from picnics, hikes, Disney movies, restaurants, education/animal focused topics.

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #40 · 2018-07-31T11:15:20.570Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA · GW

Hey Jared, you may get more of a response in the group organisers group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/956362287803174/

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #40 · 2018-07-13T09:10:54.482Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

I think there was some data that showed the majority of waste happened before a product got to a supermarket, and that switching to plant based/clean meat would be more efficient than cutting waste between shop and bin.

On page 37 of this report it says, for poultry, 11% of feed energy gets converted into human food. https://www.wri.org/sites/default/files/wri13_report_4c_wrr_online.pdf

If 15% of the 11% gets wasted that seems less of priority than the original 89% that is lost, although maybe it would be a more tractable and neglected area to work on.

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #39 · 2018-07-06T09:48:33.332Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

You may get more of a response here. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1509936222639432/

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #39 · 2018-05-23T08:21:54.544Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

The FB group on career discussions might be a good place to ask - with more people paying attention to it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/473795076132698/

Comment by DavidNash on Are You Sure You Want To Donate To The Against Malaria Foundation? · 2018-05-18T10:35:58.492Z · score: 4 (3 votes) · EA · GW

FB Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/EAMentalHealth/

Shallow overview of mental health from an EA perspective

http://effective-altruism.com/ea/1ha/mental_health_shallow_review/

Happiness reading list

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qJBarYoUPjvtDo8tTrcNb6NT5adWLaJCUOgEMdeNQ6E/edit#

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #39 · 2018-04-23T14:59:25.114Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

Career Discussion group on FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/473795076132698/

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #39 · 2018-04-23T14:55:35.466Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Could also post to the effective environmentalism group on FB as well. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1509936222639432/

Comment by DavidNash on Review of CZEA "Intense EA Weekend" retreat · 2018-04-10T15:50:41.743Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · EA · GW

EA London is planning something like this next month, but over a weekend, so people will meet up on both days at the same venue in London.

Comment by DavidNash on Introducing EA Work Club – high-impact jobs and side projects for EAs · 2017-12-11T09:31:13.016Z · score: 5 (5 votes) · EA · GW

I think that's how many upvotes the project has had.

Comment by DavidNash on Open Thread #39 · 2017-11-24T23:16:57.011Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

You might find this group useful (once it get's a bit bigger) https://www.facebook.com/groups/HealthEA/

Comment by DavidNash on In defence of epistemic modesty · 2017-10-29T19:31:42.506Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · EA · GW

I think your conclusion is worth being a post on it's own, and would potentially get read by more people in a shorter format.

It may also be the people that you'd want to read to the end wouldn't read a post as in depth as this.

Comment by DavidNash on Why & How to Make Progress on Diversity & Inclusion in EA · 2017-10-27T20:02:44.557Z · score: 6 (6 votes) · EA · GW

Just in reply to the graph section - this post made me think about possible reasons for the discrepancy between computer science and law/medicine.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/07/contra-grant-on-exaggerated-differences/

Comment by DavidNash on Anti-tribalism and positive mental health as high-value cause areas · 2017-10-27T07:51:57.445Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

True, looking at this article, it seems that it could be as high as 24 million which is just above 7% of the population, but the political scientist in the post has doubts of how true the figure is and for people who watch, is it 5 minutes or 5 hours.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2017/0119/Is-watching-Fox-News-the-ultimate-conservative-calling-card

Comment by DavidNash on Anti-tribalism and positive mental health as high-value cause areas · 2017-10-20T09:01:38.561Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA · GW

It could be that we are politically engaged and read about every event that happens but the majority of people don't pay much attention to politics. So Trump getting 30%+ is based on a lot of those voters having read 1 or maybe 2 favourable things about him and nothing else, similar with Democrat voters.

For example, Fox news averages 3 million viewers, which is less than 1% of the population.

Comment by DavidNash on Anti-tribalism and positive mental health as high-value cause areas · 2017-10-19T12:40:30.191Z · score: 4 (4 votes) · EA · GW

I think most people that write about this subject don't take a step back and look at the historical context and general trends in society, which makes it really hard to work out what's going on.

It's hard to tell from just observing the news how views/public opinion are trending, if the number of the KKK has gone from 3000 to 300, but we only start interviewing and televising them at the 300 level, it will appear as if they are more present in society than in the past.

One study of polarisation (which in some ways is similar to tribalism) shows that polarisation could be increasing the most in older generations, who use the internet least. This might suggest that as people come online, we're hearing more from a more polarised generation, who before the internet, wouldn't be letting people know about their views as much.

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Shapiro/pdfs/age-polars.pdf

Here is another post about how we may start to interpret events in one way even if it doesn't match trends. It seems like a lot of people are now focused on the far right/extremism and tribalism, when they weren't before the election.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/07/tuesday-shouldnt-change-the-narrative/

Comment by DavidNash on What do DALYs capture? · 2017-09-21T15:11:33.590Z · score: 3 (5 votes) · EA · GW

Maybe a relevant post from the past.

http://effective-altruism.com/ea/pu/we_care_about_walys_not_qalys/

"QALYs only measure health, and health is not all that matters. Most effective altruists care about increasing the number of "WALYs" or well-being adjusted life years, where health is just one component of wellbeing."

Comment by DavidNash on How should we assess very uncertain and non-testable stuff? · 2017-08-17T14:26:52.299Z · score: 2 (2 votes) · EA · GW

I think there's one happening in London in November that is discussing questions of this nature - it may be worth seeing if they will add it to the schedule if it's not already there.

Comment by DavidNash on The marketing gap and a plea for moral inclusivity · 2017-07-10T21:04:47.546Z · score: 0 (0 votes) · EA · GW

Might it be that 80k recommend X-risk because it's neglected (even within EA) and that if more then 50% of EAs had X-risk as their highest priority it would no longer be as neglected?

A Third Take on Trump

2017-03-31T18:21:49.204Z · score: 2 (6 votes)

EA London Strategy Quarterly

2015-09-05T21:48:27.856Z · score: 1 (1 votes)