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Facilitating electoral reform 2021-12-04T22:54:37.126Z

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Comment by gooder on Questions to ask Will MacAskill about 'What We Owe The Future' for 80,000 Hours Podcast (possible new audio intro to longtermism) · 2022-06-23T05:39:30.112Z · EA · GW

How does it feel to have a large group of (mostly) younger people accept your word as truth and align their careers accordingly?

Comment by gooder on What are the most impactful roles that EAs are currently not entering (and why)? · 2021-12-06T04:43:06.914Z · EA · GW

I like this idea, and am also curious about whether they would be able to influence trajectory and what that might look like. 

Would the MO be to directly influence tech & bio leaders? Or indirectly influence them by getting citizens interested and applying pressure?

 I find ethics critical, but unfortunately am not sure how engagement around ethics could be enforced for  people who don't grok the importance. Maybe that's where governance and treaties come in.

Comment by gooder on Facilitating electoral reform · 2021-12-04T23:49:42.622Z · EA · GW

Yikes, overuse of acronyms drives me nuts and now I'm complicit.  Thanks for pointing this out. AV: Approval Voting.      RCV: Ranked Choice Voting      CES: The Center for Election Science.

Comment by gooder on CES EA Appeal 2021 (The Case For Giving To The Center For Election Science) · 2021-12-04T22:25:27.318Z · EA · GW

There seems to be some level of consensus that plurality voting sucks and we can do better. More people can agree on that than on which specific model. 

I would expect that in turn it would be easier to unite people around that concept than on the specific new model itself(ex. RCV, AR, etc.)  I could see greater cumulative public support being garnered for the mere opportunity to vote on electoral reform than for advocating for one particular structure.  Personally, I'd be happy with either RC or AR in say, Seattle, but would want to understand them better if they were to be utilized in certain other cities, and even more so if state or nationwide. 

Would it be possible for CES to join forces across organizations working for electoral reform (ex. RCV, AR orgs) in order to collectively petition for the opportunity to vote on voting reform itself? 

If CES's name is already strongly associated with one alternative method (approval voting),  might it make sense to found an org dedicated to ensuring that collectively, electoral reforms have the opportunity to occur? 

To be clear, I am not criticizing CES or suggesting that AR is a bad idea. I just fear that it will never have a platform from which to be considered. 

I think that change needs to happen fast in the US, the vector needs to be away from plurality voting, and that it's probable that more people would agree with that idea than with something more nuanced (like which alternative voting model to support). 

If CES's name is already strongly associated with one alternative method (approval voting),  is there an existing org dedicated to ensuring that collectively, electoral reforms have the opportunity to occur? If not, would it make sense to found one?

I fear that no alternative will have the opportunity to exist unless we can stay united around what inspired us to search for new models in the first place (i.e., the current model is lacking).