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Introducing High Impact Athletes 2020-11-30T13:20:00.314Z
Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? 2020-09-08T10:25:52.235Z

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Comment by Marcus Daniell on Announcing "Naming What We Can"! · 2021-04-07T11:06:11.707Z · EA · GW

I'm on board.

Comment by Marcus Daniell on [Podcast] Marcus Daniell on High Impact Athletes, Communicating EA, and the Purpose of Sport · 2021-03-06T03:53:43.145Z · EA · GW

Loved this chat. Took some fun and unexpected turns! Thanks guys.

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-12-04T12:48:02.597Z · EA · GW

I've thought about getting in touch with them and seeing if they wanted to partner up somehow. From what I can see they don't have any alignment with EA, so perhaps I could try and move the needle a bit towards that. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-12-01T16:21:34.178Z · EA · GW

They've both been super helpful, particularly REG!

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-12-01T16:21:11.548Z · EA · GW

This is a fair point and one I'm not completely firm on myself.

The main reason for including Atmosfair and Burn are because in my experience pro athletes (particularly tennis players who fly almost every week) are particularly aware of their carbon footprint. Carbon offsetting is a relatively easy sell for this audience. 

Dan Stein at Giving Green has done research on carbon offsetting's impact, and specifically efficient cook stoves. https://www.givinggreen.earth/post/fuel-efficient-cookstoves 
I recommend BURN, as well as Atmosfair's cookstove program on HIA. 

I'm curious, where do you get the 100x less effective figure from? 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T16:59:53.498Z · EA · GW

Changed! Thanks for the input

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T16:59:25.070Z · EA · GW

Thanks Ben, great comment. 

Do you think this approach works across the board?  In my personal experience athletes are quite self-centred and asking for anything for free is a shock to them. So far, bringing up a percentage pledge has scared the vast majority of the athletes I've spoken to, despite giving myself as an example of someone for whom it works and feels good. Most have shied away from a percentage, asking to donate a discreet amount and maybe come in at a 1% pledge next year or the year after. 

Perhaps this response is only typical for tennis players who have to earn their livings through winning matches, which is never a certainty, rather than being paid a salary like in most team sports. I haven't yet spoken to any team athletes about HIA. 

Also, I see the point about 'saintly' and have changed it. Thanks!

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T14:37:20.028Z · EA · GW

Also, I would love to have a wide variety of athletes represented by HIA. As it's still very new I'm focusing outreach on those I have personal relationships with, which means tennis, which is predominantly white in the professional space at this point in time. I'm hoping that over time I can get in touch with a more diverse range of athletes from many different sports. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T14:31:14.512Z · EA · GW

This is a good point and not one I'd thought of before. Thank you. 

Re 'saintly', it is intended as a joke. Do you think it's more offensive than funny? Or not worth the risk? 

Re diversity, I can't help that I'm the founder and I'm white, but having a more diverse advisory board sounds good. Do you have any ideas as to who would be good advisors for this sort of thing? Important to note that all the advisors are completely pro bono. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T14:29:04.458Z · EA · GW

I would argue that most people reading the website are very wealthy - living in a western country almost inevitably qualifies you as very wealthy. For the main target audience - successful professional athletes - a 10% pledge would not change quality of life one whit. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T14:25:21.990Z · EA · GW

See below about casting the net - being an athlete myself and knowing many personally I think longtermism is too much of a stretch conceptually for most athletes at this point. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Introducing High Impact Athletes · 2020-11-30T14:24:20.477Z · EA · GW

Hi Alex, thanks for your comments! I'll reply to each. I'm aiming to cast the net as widely as possible within the athlete community. To me this means mixing the novel (effective altruism) with the known. I think it is also valid to say that the animal welfare charities represented have a large impact on the environment. 

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T15:58:19.186Z · EA · GW

Hi Linch,

By 'code' I mean sport. I've spoken to athletes from around 8 different sports thus far and have generally seen a lot of interest. But the big challenge is to go from hearing 'that's a cool idea' to 'how can I donate'.

I agree that inspiration and mentorship could both be huge, and I would also say that they begin from the same point of communication and education in the athlete community. The athletes can't pass on what they don't yet know.

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T15:52:05.189Z · EA · GW

I'd push back on the last paragraph here - granted, some sports are salary based and relatively financially secure from year to year. Tennis and many other individual sports are the opposite and purely based on how many matches you win. Given the huge expenses inherent in flying to tournaments and hiring coaches, many weeks are break-even or losses, even at the highest level. If dealing with this sort of uncertainty helps with EA alignment then it bodes well for approaching athletes from many individual sports.

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T15:46:01.779Z · EA · GW

Amazing! Have PM'd you. Cheers

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T15:45:42.604Z · EA · GW

Would love to! Have PM'd you. Cheers

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T09:58:16.972Z · EA · GW

Sounds like a good dude. Any idea how I could begin to approach someone like that? My area is tennis and I haven't had a huge amount of network crossover into football. Cheers

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T09:57:29.292Z · EA · GW

Hi Ishaan, cool idea. At this point I'm not intending to set up officially as a tax-deductible charity. The athletes will be donating from all over the world, so creating a broad enough network of orgs would be a huge undertaking. At first I'm purely intending to act as an educator and a connector to the charities themselves. Perhaps down the line once this thing has more momentum it would make sense to talk to PPF. Thanks for the input!

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-13T09:33:00.790Z · EA · GW

Hi all, thought I'd jump in here with a few comments.

I think Ryan brings up a fair point in that the thought patterns of poker players may be MORE naturally aligned with EA than other sports. I do, however, think that pro athletes are more focused on optimisation and potential shortcuts than the average person, given how short sport careers are and how hugely impactful a good shortcut/efficiency can be on career earnings. The focus is always on 'better', and I think I can use a narrative along those lines to help bring other athletes into alignment with EA principles.

Also, there is already an EA charity in the poker space, REG, who do a great job. So my question to myself some months ago was where could I make the most marginal impact given my skillset and network? I concluded that I have a very rare 'in' with pro athletes given that I can approach them from the same level rather than with manager-speak. I think this translates across codes, and have already had some buy-in from athletes in other sports than my own.

Ultimately the biggest snowball will be made with the buy-in of fans, but I also think this is a strength of the area - a lot of people seem to be strongly influenced by the opinions and actions of their sporting heroes. More influenced than makes sense, in my opinion, but this is a huge lever nonetheless. So regardless of whether the actual donation power of athletes is relatively small, I think the influence that athletes have with their followers could make up for that.

I wasn't personally offended by Ryan's comments and welcome any pushback or feedback the community has. I think it's hugely useful and interesting.

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-08T11:32:35.033Z · EA · GW

Thanks Sanjay, I'll pm you!

Comment by Marcus Daniell on Are there any other pro athlete aspiring EAs? · 2020-09-08T11:32:10.641Z · EA · GW

Hi Aaron, yes that's me!

I've had a great chat with Stefan from REG who couldn't bring to mind any athletes outside of the poker space. I am basically trying to bring REG's model into the pro sport space (beginning with tennis due to my personal relationships there).

Phelps is an interesting one. No idea how I'd get in touch with him but if he's been exposed to the ideologies already he could be an easier ask than most.

Thanks for the reply!