Comment by utilitarian01 on A Research Agenda for Establishing Welfare Biology · 2019-03-17T22:26:31.724Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

True, I still believe that making a toy model with made-up numbers is still better than not doing it at all.

Comment by utilitarian01 on A Research Agenda for Establishing Welfare Biology · 2019-03-17T12:13:35.788Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Sure I'd be happy to discuss it more

Comment by utilitarian01 on A Research Agenda for Establishing Welfare Biology · 2019-03-16T15:27:48.077Z · score: 3 (3 votes) · EA · GW

I don't think its enough to say they're net negative because of r-selection though. Insect larvae probably have like 2 orders of magnitude less neurons and they might not even be conscious in the first place. Also I saw those welfare reports but really didn't like them because they left out the duration of suffering which is a huge factor in how bad something is. A broiler chicken experiencing a moderate amount of stress for it's entire life could be much much worse than it being boiled alive for a few seconds.

This is my welfare spreadsheet but I didn't intend to share it so if you want citations for the numbers I can try to link them.

Comment by utilitarian01 on A Research Agenda for Establishing Welfare Biology · 2019-03-15T19:45:00.912Z · score: 1 (3 votes) · EA · GW

Has there been any explicit calculation actually done on whether wild animal lives are net positive or negative? Because I've done some myself and it seems to be positive, at least for microorganisms and insects which are the most populous by a large margin.

Comment by utilitarian01 on Charity ranking sheet I made · 2019-03-13T11:33:19.864Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

Also do you know where I can find the ACE models?

Comment by utilitarian01 on Charity ranking sheet I made · 2019-03-13T11:31:01.817Z · score: 1 (1 votes) · EA · GW

The charities I chose wasn't a very principled decision, I just used the Givewell #1 (Malaria Consortium) and compared it to a couple other charities I thought could be more effective. The model is really just a basic attempt at comparing animal charities to human charities which is surprisingly something I haven't seen anyone try yet. There's also the utility number and duration of suffering I use to try to get a good grasp of how bad the life is for a chicken/fish

Charity ranking sheet I made

2019-03-13T03:00:40.526Z · score: 6 (3 votes)